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  • 1.  subpoena for billing records

    Posted 02-20-2015 03:49 PM
    In an ongoing case my adversary served ME with a subpoena (requiring
    that I appear at his office) to produce all of my clients billing
    records, copies of payments.... I told him that I cannot do that
    "attorney client privilege"

    His response was he does it all the time and I should file a motion to
    quash.

    Am I missing something....certainly through my client he may be able to
    get some info, but not through me, right???



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  • 2.  RE: subpoena for billing records

    Posted 02-20-2015 03:57 PM
    you are correct. file a motion to quash based on the privilege and ask for counsel fees.

    Alice M. Plastoris, Esq.
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    Morristown, New Jersey 07960
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  • 3.  RE: subpoena for billing records

    Posted 02-20-2015 05:11 PM

    <mailto:[email protected]>Alice -

    Do you have a cite for that (or does anyone have a site for it -- or to the contrary)?  I have a letter on my screen telling adversary he needs to respond to an interrogatory asking "State the terms and conditions of the employment of your attorney in this case, including the hourly rate or other basis for fees. Give full details of any agreement or understanding between you and your attorney in this case concerning fees and expenses, including information and specific amounts of any payments made to your attorney, the method of payment(s) and the source of the payment(s) in connection with this case. Attach the retainer agreement memorializing the employment of your attorney."
    </mailto:[email protected]>

    <mailto:[email protected]>Adversary refused, citing privilege.  Without going into details, it's highly relevant how this guy is affording this particular firm.

    I thought that one could (must) redact out anything that was privileged (I don't ask for time sheets), but that asking for the retainer agreement and what fees had been paid and by whom was fair game?

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  • 4.  RE: subpoena for billing records

    Posted 02-20-2015 05:13 PM
    I have zero idea why it inserted your email address like that.... tech folks?

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    112 West Franklin Avenue
    Pennington, NJ 08534
    Voice: 609-737-2222
    Fax: 609-737-3222
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  • 5.  RE: subpoena for billing records

    Posted 02-20-2015 06:36 PM

    Dave:

     Your interrogatory is relevant and permissible if : (1) the adverse party is seeking legal fees from your client; or (2) it is designed to lead to the discovery of relevant evidence.

     

    By the way, nobody should send a subpoena to your adversary in a litigated matter to testify on the counsel fee issue. There's other alternatives to getting that information. You can't make your adversary a witness.

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    Manalapan NJ
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  • 6.  RE: subpoena for billing records

    Posted 02-20-2015 06:46 PM
    See Crecenzo v Crane

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  • 7.  RE: subpoena for billing records

    Posted 02-20-2015 06:56 PM
    I have successfully argued that since my billing records are required by court rule and Argila to be detailed they reveal strategy which is privileged. Pendente lite is much different than an application post trial

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  • 8.  RE: subpoena for billing records

    Posted 02-21-2015 06:44 AM
    But I would assume that you would have to do a motion to Quash? Could you
    just write to the lawyer and state your position, or are you then in
    violation?

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  • 9.  RE: subpoena for billing records

    Posted 02-21-2015 07:40 AM
    If someone is subpoenaing your billing records he or she probably won't listen to reason. I'd file a motion. You can write a letter first to show the judge you tried to work it out




  • 10.  RE: subpoena for billing records

    Posted 02-21-2015 09:18 AM
    Laura: I would file a motion to quash as there are other methods to get that information such as the interrogatory to the litigant referenced by another posting in this thread. That is less intrusive on the attorney-client privilege and attorney work product. And, even then, reactions in detailed billing records may be appropriate.


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  • 11.  RE: subpoena for billing records

    Posted 02-21-2015 06:50 PM

    Just to be quite clear... there is absolutely nothing confidential or privileged about attorney-client billing records per se. Every time I've encountered that objection, I've had a reason at least likely to lead to relevant information. Motions to quash these requests are wasteful and should routinely be denied. If invoices are requested, any confidential materials should be redacted. One should explain in non-specific terms the reasons to any such redactions.

     Relatively recently (and by "recently," I really mean about 7+ years ago, since time sure flies) a decision came down establishing that some billing date information or billable event information may also be confidential. In that case, the proponent wanted to see the records to determine when the lawyer started advising or communicating with the client. This was deemed to be privileged information.

    Think twice, therefore, when you read or hear questions such as: "Now, of course I don't want you to share any content, but did you meet with so-and-so (question to client or attorney) on such-and-such date?" It has been established that objection to answering questions such as those should be sustained.

    If you make the motion to quash IMO, the judge, respectfully, should order the documents provided, redacted as necessary to protect privileged information; only now, you've just blown time and money to file the motion. So... My advice would be to provide the info, carefully redact and explain in general terms the reasons for the various redactions and let the other side waste their time filing a motion to compel, which should not fly.

    Of course, the reasons for the redactions are stated, not with global generalities, such as "privileged," but with sub-categorical generalities, such as "attorney work product," but not specifics, such as, "that's the entry where my client was discussing hiding marital funds since noon that day in a mayonnaise jar on Funk and Wagnalls' porch.


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  • 12.  RE: subpoena for billing records

    Posted 02-22-2015 07:59 AM
    I completely agree with Curt. I always find objections to billing records to be odd, given that the statements/invoices are directly relevant to the issue of counsel fees under R. 5:3-5(c). To the extent you put privileged information in billing statements (a practice that should be discouraged in my opinion), a simply redaction, with an explanation, should eliminate any privilege arguments to producing your billing statements. Don't waste time with unnecessary motion practice; just move the case along. In fact, I question why requests for invoices are not a routine part of everyone's written discovery demands, again given their relevance to counsel fee applications. Should this particular demand have been done via subpoena? That is a different discussion over the method of discovery and abuse of the subpoena power.

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  • 13.  RE: subpoena for billing records

    Posted 02-22-2015 09:02 AM
    I have a completely different take on the fee subpoena. Could it be that
    your adversary is trying to make you a witness in your own case in order to
    get you removed as counsel? I also respectfully disagree with my learned
    colleagues regarding the specificity of billing records. I provide my
    clients with a "history" of their case in my billing statements In all of
    my years of practice, I have only had to defend two fee arbitrations and
    that was early on in my career. I believe that this is because I tell my
    clients what I am doing on their behalf, and how much I have charged them
    for it, rather than "file review .5". If I have to file a motion with a
    fee request, I prepare a separate billing statement that is redacted to
    protect my client's interests. Fortunately, I don't litigate any more so
    it's not so much an issue for me. Just my two cents.

    Roz





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  • 14.  RE: subpoena for billing records

    Posted 02-22-2015 10:42 AM
    I do detailed billing entries and am always prepared to redact them should the need arise. It's easy enough to do. If you review all the various reported and unreported opinions on the lawyer as a witness issue, you would never worry again about becoming a fact witness just because you turn over your redacted billing records.

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