NJSBA Family Law Section

I am revising the ICLE Family Law Skills Book .Any idea how the caption should read when filing. The attorney of record and ID is first. The attorney and ID who is filing is below that. The rule isn't clear whether to include the firm's name under that, although it does require the attorney or firm address. Should the firm name be included?

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Mark Gruber Esq.
Hopatcong NJ
(973)398-7500

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That's how I've been doing it.


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Arlene Albino Esq.
Sparta NJ
(973)729-3888

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Original Message:
Sent: 10-24-2013 10:17
From: Mark Gruber
Subject: New rule 1:4-1(B)

I am revising the ICLE Family Law Skills Book .Any idea how the caption should read when filing. The attorney of record and ID is first. The attorney and ID who is filing is below that. The rule isn't clear whether to include the firm's name under that, although it does require the attorney or firm address. Should the firm name be included?

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Mark Gruber Esq.
Hopatcong NJ
(973)398-7500

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There was a notice to the bar in late August (somewhere around the 25th, I think) providing guidance.  If anyone went to the last weeks'  ICLE seminar re: the rule changes, it was part of the course materials.  The ID # should be that of the attorney signing the pleadings. If a different attorney is designated trial counsel, that attorney's name and ID # should be in the caption also.

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Nancy Marchioni Esq.
Middlesex NJ
(732)667-3668

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Original Message:
Sent: 10-24-2013 10:20
From: Arlene Albino
Subject: New rule 1:4-1(B)

That's how I've been doing it.


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Arlene Albino Esq.
Sparta NJ
(973)729-3888

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Original Message:
Sent: 10-24-2013 10:17
From: Mark Gruber
Subject: New rule 1:4-1(B)

I am revising the ICLE Family Law Skills Book .Any idea how the caption should read when filing. The attorney of record and ID is first. The attorney and ID who is filing is below that. The rule isn't clear whether to include the firm's name under that, although it does require the attorney or firm address. Should the firm name be included?

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Mark Gruber Esq.
Hopatcong NJ
(973)398-7500

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Here is the Notice referenced in my previous e-mail.

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Nancy Marchioni Esq.
Middlesex NJ
(732)667-3668

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Original Message:
Sent: 10-24-2013 14:58
From: Nancy Marchioni
Subject: New rule 1:4-1(B)

There was a notice to the bar in late August (somewhere around the 25th, I think) providing guidance.  If anyone went to the last weeks'  ICLE seminar re: the rule changes, it was part of the course materials.  The ID # should be that of the attorney signing the pleadings. If a different attorney is designated trial counsel, that attorney's name and ID # should be in the caption also.

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Nancy Marchioni Esq.
Middlesex NJ
(732)667-3668

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Original Message:
Sent: 10-24-2013 10:20
From: Arlene Albino
Subject: New rule 1:4-1(B)

That's how I've been doing it.


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Arlene Albino Esq.
Sparta NJ
(973)729-3888

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Original Message:
Sent: 10-24-2013 10:17
From: Mark Gruber
Subject: New rule 1:4-1(B)

I am revising the ICLE Family Law Skills Book .Any idea how the caption should read when filing. The attorney of record and ID is first. The attorney and ID who is filing is below that. The rule isn't clear whether to include the firm's name under that, although it does require the attorney or firm address. Should the firm name be included?

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Mark Gruber Esq.
Hopatcong NJ
(973)398-7500

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Yes.

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Curtis Romanowski Esq.
Senior Attorney - Proprietor
Brielle NJ
(732)603-8585

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Original Message:
Sent: 10-24-2013 10:17
From: Mark Gruber
Subject: New rule 1:4-1(B)

I am revising the ICLE Family Law Skills Book .Any idea how the caption should read when filing. The attorney of record and ID is first. The attorney and ID who is filing is below that. The rule isn't clear whether to include the firm's name under that, although it does require the attorney or firm address. Should the firm name be included?

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Mark Gruber Esq.
Hopatcong NJ
(973)398-7500

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Mark,
Below is the sample I received from the AOC in response to an inquiry I made a while ago.

Also, perhaps more importantly, below is an email I sent to Judge Grant this morning.

If others agree, I'd encourage you to reach out as well.  Judge Grant is generally very receptive to comments from the bar on these issues.


 https://njcourts.judiciary.state.nj.us/web15z/AttyPAWeb/pages/home.faces

To: <Hon. Glenn Grant> [email protected]

Judge Grant -
        I write in reference to the new requirement that attorneys provide their attorney ID number on pleadings.  If there was an opportunity for the public / bar to submit comments on this change, I missed it.
        If it's not too late to do so, I respectfully suggest that requiring the number to be placed above the caption is an unwise way to go about this.  Firms with standard letterhead and captions are going to have problems identifying which attorney ID number to use.  Cases with more than one attorney (co-counsel and multi-attorney cases) are going to be similarly confounded.  Additionally, it ruins the aesthetics for many attorneys to include the extra line above a caption.
        I respectfully suggest that the proper way to do this is to follow the model used by the federal court:  An attorney ID# is to appear below the signature of every pleading signed by an attorney.
        Thanks for your time in considering this issue.

                                                                                                                        /s/ David Perry Davis 
                                                                                                                        David Perry Davis
                                                                                                                        Attorney ID 047451996

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David Perry Davis, Esq.
112 West Franklin Avenue
Pennington, NJ 08534
Voice: 609-737-2222
Fax: 609-737-3222
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From: [email protected]
To: "David Perry Davis, Esq." <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: ATTORNEY ID  Fwd: [NJ Attys List] Style on Attorney ID#'s?
Sender: [email protected]
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 15:08:17 -0400

You're a rabble rouser, Dave. :-)

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Robert Goldstein Esq.
Manalapan NJ
(732)972-1600

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Original Message:
Sent: 10-24-2013 16:00
From: David Perry Davis
Subject: New rule 1:4-1(B)

Mark,
Below is the sample I received from the AOC in response to an inquiry I made a while ago.

Also, perhaps more importantly, below is an email I sent to Judge Grant this morning.

If others agree, I'd encourage you to reach out as well.  Judge Grant is generally very receptive to comments from the bar on these issues.


 https://njcourts.judiciary.state.nj.us/web15z/AttyPAWeb/pages/home.faces

To: <Hon. Glenn Grant> [email protected]

Judge Grant -
        I write in reference to the new requirement that attorneys provide their attorney ID number on pleadings.  If there was an opportunity for the public / bar to submit comments on this change, I missed it.
        If it's not too late to do so, I respectfully suggest that requiring the number to be placed above the caption is an unwise way to go about this.  Firms with standard letterhead and captions are going to have problems identifying which attorney ID number to use.  Cases with more than one attorney (co-counsel and multi-attorney cases) are going to be similarly confounded.  Additionally, it ruins the aesthetics for many attorneys to include the extra line above a caption.
        I respectfully suggest that the proper way to do this is to follow the model used by the federal court:  An attorney ID# is to appear below the signature of every pleading signed by an attorney.
        Thanks for your time in considering this issue.

                                                                                                                        /s/ David Perry Davis 
                                                                                                                        David Perry Davis
                                                                                                                        Attorney ID 047451996

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David Perry Davis, Esq.
112 West Franklin Avenue
Pennington, NJ 08534
Voice: 609-737-2222
Fax: 609-737-3222
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From: [email protected]
To: "David Perry Davis, Esq." <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: ATTORNEY ID  Fwd: [NJ Attys List] Style on Attorney ID#'s?
Sender: [email protected]
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 15:08:17 -0400

The latter example is closer to the format on the Notice.  Identifying as NJ Attorney ID Number is not necessary.  Thank you.

ATTORNEY ID Fwd: [NJ Attys List] Style on Attorney ID#'s? David Perry Davis, Esq. to: scco.mailbox 08/28/2013 02:27 PM

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Quick question -

I'm on an attorney's list and the following is being debated - Would either (or both) of these be acceptable?

Thanks,

The Law Office of
David Perry Davis, PC
112 West Franklin Avenue
Pennington, NJ 08534
Voice: 609-737-2222
Fax:    609-737-3222
Attorney ID# 047451996  
Attorney for Plaintiff

Or.... (or some other way?)


The Law Office of
David Perry Davis, PC
Attorney ID# 047451996  
112 West Franklin Avenue
Pennington, NJ 08534
Voice: 609-737-2222
Fax:    609-737-3222
Attorney for Plaintiff

David Perry Davis, Esq.
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The Law Office of David Perry Davis
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112 West Franklin Avenue
Pennington, NJ 08534
Voice: 609-737-2222
Fax:    609-737-3222

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