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  • 1.  Motion to Stay Child Support Enforcement?

    Posted 07-24-2015 10:33 PM

    I know there is a lot of exciting discussion going on about termination of child support at 19.  Even so, I hope that some of the family law section contributors can help me with the following (you just can't make this stuff up!):

    A local sheriff's officer came in for a consultation this week.  After 7 years of not hearing from his ex, she decided to file a motion for child support.  My officer had a two year marriage to an exotic dancer in Oklahoma when he was in the military.  When he met her, she was pregnant.  He married her after she delivered the baby and he's not on the birth cert.  She had his child while he was overseas and the relationship ended in divorce when he says he "signed the paperwork" that was sent to him.  He has never met his son.

    He was recently served with a summons to appear in Bergen County, because Oklahoma had his mother's address in Bergen, even though he's lived in Gloucester County for the last 3 years.  He paid $3500, which is 1/2 of what the arrears were, but the child support order stated it was for two children - one of which is obviously not his.  The order states that jurisdiction is to remain in OK, enforced out of Bergen.  The other twist is that ex-wife has now remarried and living on an Indian Reservation on Federal Lands, but he's not sure exactly where.

    Have any fellow members had success in staying/freezing enforcement of a child support order?  If so, any guidance or samples would be helpful.  Any thoughts on the jurisdictional issues?  Do state Courts have the ability to order paternity tests for children who live on federal lands?  Ultimately, he is concerned about the health and well being of his son.  He tried to reach out several years ago, but was discouraged by his ex and he gave up.  He will need to hire an OK attorney, so any help there would also be appreciated.  Her last know address was Tulsa.

    Thanks in advance,

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    Henry Weinfeld Esq.
    Woodbury NJ
    (856)845-7851
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  • 2.  RE: Motion to Stay Child Support Enforcement?

    Posted 07-25-2015 01:01 AM

    Henry
    This is a bar exam made up fact pattern, am I right?
    If it's real, then Sgt. Deputy is in a heap o' trouble.
    OK legal counsel needs to sit down with this guy and start from the very beginning . . .
    Not much you can do for him here, except try and keep him out of jail.
    Hanan


    Hanan M. Isaacs, Esq.

    t 609.683.7400 f 609.921.8982
    e [email protected] w www.hananisaacs.com
    4499 Route 27, Kingston NJ





  • 3.  RE: Motion to Stay Child Support Enforcement?

    Posted 07-25-2015 08:37 AM
    Two questions
    1 Is there a viable criminal charge
    Against the mother for collecting child support
    Money that she knows she isn't entitle to for the second child
    And
    2 is this her action or is the government seeking to recoup monies paid to her in assistance




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  • 4.  RE: Motion to Stay Child Support Enforcement?

    Posted 07-25-2015 11:26 AM

    Be careful as to potential notice requirements because of situations where the Tribe is deemed a (mandatory) interested party. Check the Indian Child Welfare Act, NJ statutes and the state where the son lives as to the issue. 

    Of note, your client should benefit from some CSG adjustments in connection with money from the tribe to mom and son.  (Mom may not have disclosed it when child support was calculated.) for example, pursue proof of her true unearned income and the tribe's other monetary contributions to her and the son.  I don't know if it's tribe dependent, but at least one tribe, even if not living on the reservation, pays 100% of college costs and a yearly share of it's gambling income.  I don't know the minimum age to share in the proceeds; maybe not just mom, but son too, qualifies, which would be great for your client.

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    Shelley J. Pedersen, Esq.

    Pedersen Law Firm, LLC
    Jamesburg NJ
    (732) 641-2069

    [email protected]
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  • 5.  RE: Motion to Stay Child Support Enforcement?

    Posted 07-25-2015 12:35 PM
    That is a bar exam worthy fact pattern.

    However, I would point out that Oklahoma does not have Federal reservations
    the way other western states do. There are what is known as "former
    reservations." (With the possible exception of the Osage reservation, which
    coterminous with Osage County). What this means is simply because a person
    lives in the Choctaw Nation, or the Cherokee Nation, does not mean they
    live on Federal land. For example, the city of Tulsa is divided between
    Creek and Cherokee nations. There are plenty of non-Native people living in
    the former reservations.

    Tribal benefits are entirely based on the individual tribe. Richer tribes
    provide more benefits; the Osage can provide nearly 100% of college costs,
    while the Sac and Fox may provide $1000 per year. Further, each tribe has
    different determinations of membership, (some allow 1/32, some only 1/16)
    and different levels of benefits for different members. My family members
    who are Tribal members receive no gambling revenue.

    So in summary, just because she has moved to a "reservation" does not mean
    she, or the children are tribal members, and the "reservation " is likely
    not Federal.

    also, I guess I should state I am certainly no expert, but I am a native
    (small n) Oklahoman who grew up in Osage County.

    Blake




  • 6.  RE: Motion to Stay Child Support Enforcement?

    Posted 07-25-2015 05:46 PM
    I don't usually reply to these posts, but this one really is interesting. I have no idea of the answer, but if you need a good attorney in Tulsa, go onto the website for the AAML, aaml.org<http: aaml.org="">, and search for attorneys in Tulsa. There are lots of them.




  • 7.  RE: Motion to Stay Child Support Enforcement?

    Posted 07-25-2015 09:44 PM

    I agree that it's a fascinating topic, but on the level of more practical advice to the situation at hand in reference to the enforcement application:  I would research the Oklahoma guidelines, and run them for one child based on his income and zero income for her.   A hearing officer has discretion under UIFSA to enforce an order at a lower level when appropriate to do so, even if they cannot modify because the originating forum will have continuing exclusive jurisdiction. I would represent that he will file a motion in the correct forum within 10 days, and ask to enforce at a lower level until it is decided  then, as you or someone else said, get Oklahoma counsel. I would Google  around and find potential attorneys, and get a couple of options for the guy. 

    I can also say without any doubt that Indian tribes do have Title IV  agencies (to receive federal funding for child support enforcement efforts). If you give me the name of the originating tribe, I can get you a conact person out there. I have contacted them over the drivers license issue so I will have a contact person for you.



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    David Perry Davis, Esq.
    112 West Franklin Avenue
    Pennington, NJ 08534
    Voice: 609-737-2222




  • 8.  RE: Motion to Stay Child Support Enforcement?

    Posted 07-27-2015 08:54 AM

    Thanks all for the informative points of view.   Another fantastic benefit of membership in the family law section of the NJ Bar!

    My best to all.


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    Henry Weinfeld Esq.
    Woodbury NJ
    (856)845-7851
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  • 9.  RE: Motion to Stay Child Support Enforcement?

    Posted 07-27-2015 10:41 AM

    Henry
    This is a bar exam made up fact pattern, am I right?
    If it's real, then Sgt. Deputy is in a heap o' trouble.
    OK legal counsel needs to sit down with this guy and start from the very beginning . . .
    Not much you can do for him here, except try and keep him out of jail.
    Hanan


    Hanan M. Isaacs, Esq.

    t 609.683.7400 f 609.921.8982
    e [email protected] w www.hananisaacs.com
    4499 Route 27, Kingston NJ