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  • 1.  File From Former Counsel

    Posted 04-04-2015 02:27 PM

    Hi everyone, 

    Recently retained but former counsel not returning calls to set up time to go to his office and copy file.  Believe I need to file motion and submit Fee Cert but client is uneasy with having to pay me to get the file.  Any suggestions.  Thanks in advance. 

    Best,

    Eric

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    Eric Hannum Esq.
    Jackson NJ
    (732)370-9596
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  • 2.  RE: File From Former Counsel

    Posted 04-04-2015 02:40 PM
    Eric: Write a letter demanding a complete copy of the file and offering to pay copy costs. Send it CMRRR. Set an outside date for a response. Former attorney is entitled to copying costs. ------------------------------ Robert Goldstein Esq. Manalapan NJ (732)972-1600 ------------------------------


  • 3.  RE: File From Former Counsel

    Posted 04-04-2015 02:47 PM
    I have a little different scenario a client just came to me and has told
    me that the former counsel did not do the work he claimed to have done. I
    asked for the file which he agreed to give over for the cost of copying,
    but says that unless my client agrees to pay his fee from the escrow funds
    being held he is going to file a motion for a charging lien. I don't know
    if they would have an ethics or malpractice claim as I just got the case,
    they seem to think that they do, but that may not be the reality, I don't
    know at this point. Aside from referring them to a malpractice lawyer, any
    suggestions?

    Thank you.

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    ATTORNEY AT LAW
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    Write a letter demanding a complete copy of the file and offering to pay
    copy costs. Send it CMRRR. Set an outside date for a response.

    Former attorney is entitled to copying costs.

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  • 4.  RE: File From Former Counsel

    Posted 04-06-2015 08:56 AM
    Eric,

    Advisory Committee on Professional Ethics # 54 has firmly opined that holding a former client's file pending payment of any outstanding fees is unethical and gives rise to a cause of action for disciplinary action. New Jersey case law, including Frenkel and others make clear that former counsel is required to turn over the file of a former client despite the existence of an attorney lien for an outstanding balance that may be due for legal services rendered. The appropriate remedy to collect an outstanding fee from a prior client engaged in current litigation is a charging lien.

    Hope that helps.


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  • 5.  RE: File From Former Counsel

    Posted 04-06-2015 10:39 AM
    Thank you.




  • 6.  RE: File From Former Counsel

    Posted 04-06-2015 03:59 PM
    I believe, however, that the withdrawing attorney can require the former client to pay for the cost of copying the file before it is transferred to the new attorney




  • 7.  RE: File From Former Counsel

    Posted 04-06-2015 07:15 PM
    You are entitled, by NJ ethics opinions, to get prepaid copy costs for the file you are reproducing. Such costs can be very expensive in a big file.



    Hanan




  • 8.  RE: File From Former Counsel

    Posted 04-08-2015 10:40 AM
    Hanan -- Agreed that "we are entitled, by NJ ethics opinions, to get prepaid copy costs", but the key is that if the client refuses to pay or claims they can't pay right now, you can't withhold the file until you're paid or you're risking both an ethics complaint and, if the client is harmed, a malpractice action.  Put a lien on, sue them later, whatever, but "you can't have it until you pay" is a no-go.

    Also.... real-world here for a second.  Unlike in 2003 when I had this issue and the near-ethics complaint, today we scan everything to PDF.  When closing a file or if a client wants to get different counsel, we confirm that everything has the "Scanned to PDF" little stamp mark on and then turn it over.  We keep original signatures on retainer agreements (in one large file), but otherwise PDF copies are fine.

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    112 West Franklin Avenue
    Pennington, NJ 08534
    www.FamilyLawNJ.pro
    Voice: 609-737-2222
    Fax: 609-737-3222
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  • 9.  RE: File From Former Counsel

    Posted 04-06-2015 01:58 PM
    What about the cost of copying; I know generally the outgoing lawyer should
    be reimbursed, but can he hold the file if the client feels that there
    should still be retainer funds but the lawyer claims to have exhausted them.



    GERALDENE SHERR DUSWALT
    ATTORNEY AT LAW
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    Admitted in New York and New Jersey
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    Scotch Plains, New Jersey 07076

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    Advisory Committee on Professional Ethics # 54 has firmly opined that
    holding a former client's file pending payment of any outstanding fees is
    unethical and gives rise to a cause of action for disciplinary action. New
    Jersey case law, including Frenkel and others make clear that former counsel
    is required to turn over the file of a former client despite the existence
    of an attorney lien for an outstanding balance that may be due for legal
    services rendered. The appropriate remedy to collect an outstanding fee from
    a prior client engaged in current litigation is a charging lien.

    Hope that helps.


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    Attorney ID No. 014061990
    Office: 732-842-9993
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    Email: [email protected]
    Website: www.familylawyerinnj.com

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  • 10.  RE: File From Former Counsel

    Posted 04-06-2015 02:07 PM
    your remedy if you are owed funds is the file a motion for a charging lien and serve preaction notice. A lawyer cannot withhold a file from a client it is unethical. The lawyer can charge the client or successor counsel the cost of copying the file. BTW - the client should receive the original filed pleadings and exhibits in the file and the outgoing lawyer can keep a c copy for themselves.

    Alice M. Plastoris, Esq.
    82 Speedwell Avenue
    Morristown, New Jersey 07960
    973-538-7070
    973-538-7088 Fax
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  • 11.  RE: File From Former Counsel

    Posted 04-07-2015 11:43 AM
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    A lot of good information back and forth, but the "take away" is that you can charge your client for the copying, but you CANNOT refuse to turn the file over if they don't pay.  You get a lien (Hanan has good samples and all the info), and/or you can pursue whatever other recourse you may have, but you can't say "I won't give you the file until you pay me $XXX" (whether XXX is $5,000 or $1).

    The closest I ever came to an ethics complaint was 12 years ago on this very point.  It went all the way to a formal hearing; if I'd lost there, it would have resulted in a formal complaint being filed.  A (redacted) copy of the dismissal is attached; if there's any question on this issue and how seriously it's taken, read it.

    Former client (who had received every single document as it came in / out) wanted a copy of his multi-box file.  I had it professionally copied and told client he could pick it up at his leisure.  There was a $167 bill.  I told client (who had no money issues, shall we say) that he'd have to cover the bill.  He balked. After having been told the above, I eventually ended up paying for it (yes, I could've pursued former client, but how much time are we going to spend over $167?)

    Former client filed a grievance saying it was absolutely unethical (RPC 1.6(d)) to hold the file pending payment.  It didn't go further only because I'd eventually covered it and former client wasn't harmed by the delay.

    Bottom line -- Be clear that you CANNOT withhold a client's file for nonpayment. If prior counsel is doing so, I suggest sending a delivery confirmation letter and letting them know -- then the question become at what point you have an ethical obligation to turn the failure to provide the file over the the Ethics Committee yourself ("snitch rule" and all that).  I would point this out in the cover letter.

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    David Perry Davis, Esq.
    112 West Franklin Avenue
    Pennington, NJ 08534
    www.FamilyLawNJ.pro
    Voice: 609-737-2222
    Fax: 609-737-3222
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  • 12.  RE: File From Former Counsel

    Posted 04-08-2015 06:11 AM
    Thank you that really was very helpful.



    GERALDENE SHERR DUSWALT
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    A lot of good information back and forth, but the "take away" is that you
    can charge your client for the copying, but you CANNOT refuse to turn the
    file over if they don't pay. You get a lien (Hanan has good samples and
    all the info), and/or you can pursue whatever other recourse you may have,
    but you can't say "I won't give you the file until you pay me $XXX" (whether
    XXX is $5,000 or $1).

    The closest I ever came to an ethics complaint was 12 years ago on this
    very point. It went all the way to a formal hearing; if I'd lost there, it
    would have resulted in a formal complaint being filed. A (redacted) copy
    of the dismissal is attached; if there's any question on this issue and how
    seriously it's taken, read it.

    Former client (who had received every single document as it came in /
    out) wanted a copy of his multi-box file. I had it professionally copied and
    told client he could pick it up at his leisure. There was a $167 bill. I
    told client (who had no money issues, shall we say) that he'd have to
    cover the bill. He balked. After having been told the above, I eventually
    ended up paying for it (yes, I could've pursued former client, but how much
    time are we going to spend over $167?)

    Former client filed a grievance saying it was absolutely unethical (RPC
    1.6(d)) to hold the file pending payment. It didn't go further only because
    I'd eventually covered it and former client wasn't harmed by the delay.

    Bottom line -- Be clear that you CANNOT withhold a client's file for
    nonpayment. If prior counsel is doing so, I suggest sending a delivery
    confirmation letter and letting them know -- then the question become at what point
    you have an ethical obligation to turn the failure to provide the file
    over the the Ethics Committee yourself ("snitch rule" and all that). I would
    point this out in the cover letter.

    ------------------------------
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    112 West Franklin Avenue
    Pennington, NJ 08534
    _www.FamilyLawNJ.pro_ (http://www.familylawnj.pro/)
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    Fax: 609-737-3222
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  • 13.  RE: File From Former Counsel

    Posted 04-06-2015 04:12 PM

    The practical answer is to pay the copying costs. I would not give up my file without retaining a copy and the ethics opinion clearly states that I am entitled to the reasonable costs of copying it.

     The client should have a good part of the file anyway but for some reason, they never seem to have much, do they?

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  • 14.  RE: File From Former Counsel

    Posted 04-06-2015 04:20 PM
    No they don't. Even if the other lawyer says they sent a copy of every
    piece of paper (and for a few I have taken over I know the lawyer and know
    that to be true).





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    The practical answer is to pay the copying costs. I would not give up my
    file without retaining a copy and the ethics opinion clearly states that I
    am entitled to the reasonable costs of copying it.
    The client should have a good part of the file anyway but for some reason,
    they never seem to have much, do they?

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