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  • 1.  Exhibit is prior Certification

    Posted 12-07-2016 01:51 PM

    Listmates:

    Adversary was recently hired by a previous pro se litigant and obtained permission from the court to file a Supplemental Certification.  Conveniently, instead of drafting a Certification that was inclusive of all issues, adversary filed a short 4 page Certification which begins with the following: " I rely on my previously submitted Application for Modification of Court Order and Reply Certification" which was adjudicated months ago.  The Motion and Reply Cert (Exhibit A) total over 60 pages with additional exhibits.  In essence, my adversary is attempting to argue two motions in her Supplemental Certification.  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated and thank you in advance for same. 

    Best,

    Eric

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  • 2.  RE: Exhibit is prior Certification

    Posted 12-07-2016 01:59 PM

    Move to strike, by golly.

    There is a court rule that states certifications must contain facts to the certifier's personal knowledge.  All the stuff attached to the new motion probably contain items of information that are not personally known to the certifier.

    The attachments also impermissibly expand the page limits beyond anything reasonable.

    If it were my case, I would be objecting. What the adversary has done may be cheap, easy, and convenient, but it also is unfair to your client and you.

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  • 3.  RE: Exhibit is prior Certification

    Posted 12-07-2016 02:09 PM
    Generally, the other Certification would have to be included . As Judge Reisner used to say when he sat in the Family Part, The Court has no institutional memory. So, if it is not included, then the arguments as to the process/substance may not even come into play.


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  • 4.  RE: Exhibit is prior Certification

    Posted 12-07-2016 02:18 PM
    Allan,
     
    While I agree with you in theory, the adversary now has included facts, circumstances and documents that would take 50 pages to reply to as a reply to a Supplemental Certification.
     
    Eric





  • 5.  RE: Exhibit is prior Certification

    Posted 12-07-2016 02:09 PM
    Hanan,
     
    My thoughts exactly.  I plan on filing a brief outlining same and getting a ruling on the issue prior to the Motion Hearing.  Never saw this before and wanted to get some feedback from others. 
     
    Thanks again
     
    Eric





  • 6.  RE: Exhibit is prior Certification

    Posted 12-07-2016 02:25 PM

    Eric, procedurally how will you get a decision prior to the motion hearing? Leave of court to file an interlocutory motion with pending stay of hearing date?

    Thanks, 

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  • 7.  RE: Exhibit is prior Certification

    Posted 12-07-2016 02:56 PM
    I was going to make the motion on my feet but an interlocutory application is probably better.  Can not wait to hear client's response when I tell him about this.   





  • 8.  RE: Exhibit is prior Certification

    Posted 12-07-2016 03:07 PM

    Howe much is this going to cost your client. If this was a reply certification, and you feel this violates the rule, simply write a letter and then argue at time of oral argument.

     

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  • 9.  RE: Exhibit is prior Certification

    Posted 12-07-2016 03:09 PM

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  • 10.  RE: Exhibit is prior Certification

    Posted 12-07-2016 03:18 PM
    I agree with Robert Goldstein - do a letter objecting and argue it at the motion hearing.  

    There are a multitude of issues regarding your adversary's tactic that have been previously addressed in this thread (due process, inappropriate attempt at reconsideration, hearsay/personal knowledge issues - although it sounds like it's the client's previous certification so personal knowledge might not be an issue).

    R. 5:5-4 discusses Certifications in Family Court.  Per (g) - Certified statements (not previously filed with the Court) that are included as exhibits are added to the page limitations of the original Certification.  As the certification was previously submitted, it appears this rule does not specifically apply, although I would argue the intent of the rule is to prevent the very issue present here - circumventing the page limitation with extraneous, irrelevant, and previously submitted information.  Maybe as to procedural history/background it's not a big deal, but if there are substantive arguments and factual contentions being presented that were not submitted with the initial certification and/or reply certification, I think that's inappropriate and contrary to the intent of the rules.




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  • 11.  RE: Exhibit is prior Certification

    Posted 12-07-2016 02:08 PM

    Technically, exhibits are not counted for the page limits but some judges get wiggy about attaching prior certifications with exhibits. make the objection that her submissions do not comply with the motion rules.  You just said a motion was already heard and decided months ago.  she does not re-draft the certification but just attaches it. the court should disregard.

     

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  • 12.  RE: Exhibit is prior Certification

    Posted 12-07-2016 02:14 PM
    Have you contracted adversary?  Might work; cite rule.
     
     
     
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    Listmates:

    Adversary was recently hired by a previous pro se litigant and obtained permission from the court to file a Supplemental Certification.  Conveniently, instead of drafting a Certification that was inclusive of all issues, adversary filed a short 4 page Certification which begins with the following: " I rely on my previously submitted Application for Modification of Court Order and Reply Certification" which was adjudicated months ago.  The Motion and Reply Cert (Exhibit A) total over 60 pages with additional exhibits.  In essence, my adversary is attempting to argue two motions in her Supplemental Certification.  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated and thank you in advance for same. 

    Best,

    Eric

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  • 13.  RE: Exhibit is prior Certification

    Posted 12-07-2016 03:02 PM

    Agree with Hanan's comments.  Only personal knowledge in certifications. Though I have seen plenty of inadmissible hearsay and even attorney testimony in client certifications . . .

    I have questions.  If the cert prepared by the pro se was submitted as part of a motion previously adjudicated, is any or all of it even relevant to the relief being requested in the instant motion?  Or is the adversary trying to get a second chance at the previous motion?  That is wholly improper unless adversary is moving for reconsideration within allowed time limits.  Just some more possible grounds to object/move to strike.

    If time permits, I would probably reach out by phone to adversary to see if she might want to withdraw the cert incorporating the prior cert and submit a cert which complies with all the rules.  Adversary may simply be inexperienced and welcome the chance to make things right before having to face a motion to strike.  

    Best of luck to you. Anne

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  • 14.  RE: Exhibit is prior Certification

    Posted 12-07-2016 03:31 PM

    Robert

    I would feel uncomfortable proceeding by a letter only.  I would caption my motion as a motion to strike, returnable the same day as the underlying motion, and include a letter nemo in support.

    This should not be a long, time consuming, or expensive process.

    Hanan


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