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  • 1.  Calculating CS on 50/50

    Posted 12-06-2016 04:03 PM
    This is a pretty basic question I think, but just had a minor dispute / question over it, so I'd rather confirm and be safe rather than sorry.

    Parties share custody 50/50. There is no PPR designation for support purposes. To calculate guidelines support amount:

    1. Run the CSG with mom as custodial parent.
    2. Run the CSG with dad as custodial parent.
    3. Net the two numbers out.

    Is this correct?


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  • 2.  RE: Calculating CS on 50/50

    Posted 12-06-2016 04:07 PM

    Easy Soft and Family Soft both offer the function of equalizing parenting time, so you should not have to do this. If you are doing manual calculations, then yes. Make sure you consider how the parties are claiming the children for tax purposes as the default is oftentimes wrong. You can select to equalize that as well, or you can identify how the parties are filing (HOH, Single, etc.) and override the default.

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  • 3.  RE: Calculating CS on 50/50

    Posted 12-06-2016 04:48 PM
    I've always done it as David suggests.   I use Easy Soft, though.   I cannot see how to equalize parenting.  

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  • 4.  RE: Calculating CS on 50/50

    Posted 12-06-2016 05:02 PM

    There is a button next to <g class="gr_ gr_48 gr-alert gr_gramm gr_run_anim Grammar multiReplace" id="48" data-gr-id="48">number</g> of overnights, to the right, that you select to "equalize parenting time."

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  • 5.  RE: Calculating CS on 50/50

    Posted 12-06-2016 05:05 PM
    Isn't it just a Benisch and Wunsch-Deffler adjustment? 

    Easy soft does the calculation automatically if you put 183/182 overnights for PPR and PAR, respectively (use lower income party as PAR)

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    There is a button next to number of overnights, to the right, that you select to "equalize parenting time."

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    There is a button next to <g class="gr_ gr_48 gr-alert gr_gramm gr_run_anim Grammar multiReplace" id="48" data-gr-id="48">number</g> of overnights, to the right, that you select to "equalize parenting time."

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  • 6.  RE: Calculating CS on 50/50

    Posted 12-06-2016 05:09 PM

    Wunch-Deffler is not preferred – Benisch is.

     

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  • 7.  RE: Calculating CS on 50/50

    Posted 12-06-2016 05:58 PM
    Thanks for all the responses, especially Amy Wechsler's article.

    Using Easy Soft, it gives a different bottom line result depending on who is selected as the PPR.

    With mom (higher earning / $1384 per week) as PPR and dad ($538 / week) as PAR, it gives -46 per week (after Wunsch-Deffler  adjustment). A negative number "denotes PPR Obligation."

    Running it switched (dad as PPR, mom as PAR) gives $95 per week (after Wunsch-Deffler adjustment)

    Gregory Thomlison says "use lower income party as PAR" - is there support for this in the rules?



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  • 8.  RE: Calculating CS on 50/50

    Posted 12-06-2016 06:07 PM
    Dave,
    I don't think so.   I tried it with the figures you provided.   You didn't say how many kids, so I put 2 (no teenage adjustment)    I did not put in any daycare or medical insurance.

    Running with your incomes, if I make Mom the PPR, CS comes to MINUS 46, MINUS a 24 Wunsch-deffler adjustment, so it comes out to MINUS 70 (i.e., Mom pays Dad 70)
    If I make Dad the PPR, CS comes to 125, minus 55 wunsch-deffler adjustment, so it still comes out to 70 paid by Mom to Dad.

    Doesn't this prove the point that it doesn't matter?  

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  • 9.  RE: Calculating CS on 50/50

    Posted 12-07-2016 10:55 AM

    Same question as David's original post, but now it's an above-the-guideline case.  50-50 PT with no PPR.  Parties have combined net annual income of, say, $200k ("net income" per Appendix IX(20)(b)).  Wife grosses $100k/year and Husband grosses $200k/year.

    What's the best approach?

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  • 10.  RE: Calculating CS on 50/50

    Posted 12-07-2016 03:29 PM
    David,

    I don't recall that there is support for that in the rules or appendices.  I clerked after Benisch came out and the judges circulated a memo detailing how to make the Benisch Adjustment (which I recall stated that the lower income parent should be PPR in the CS Guidelines before making the Benisch adjustment).  I believe that memo and the calculation contained therein was substantially what Judge Haas used in his Wunsch-Deffler opinion.  

    As indicated previously in this thread, if you use the higher income parent as the PPR, the CS amount will probably be negative.

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  • 11.  RE: Calculating CS on 50/50

    Posted 12-06-2016 05:13 PM

    If you look at the buttons adjacent to the custodial <g class="gr_ gr_77 gr-alert gr_gramm gr_run_anim Grammar multiReplace" id="77" data-gr-id="77">parents</g> overnights on the first page, you can select "calc", "overnight allocations", or "equal parenting." Select "equal parenting".

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  • 12.  RE: Calculating CS on 50/50

    Posted 12-06-2016 04:48 PM
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    See attached as a way to provide an equal amount of child support dollars in each household when there is a 50-50 schedule with no designation of PAR or PPR.

     

    Amy Wechsler, Esq.

    Matrimonial Attorney, Mediator and

        Collaborative Practitioner

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  • 13.  RE: Calculating CS on 50/50

    Posted 12-06-2016 05:26 PM
    Where is the button on Family Law for equalizing?



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