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Hanan M. Isaacs, Esq

Hanan M. Isaacs, Esq02-25-2016 06:37 PM

  • 1.  Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 02:22 PM
    If a Matrimonial settlement agreement sets an alimony figure, but fails to reference an end date and even fails to describe the type of alimony (permanent, limited, rehab, etc), is there any assumption as to the length of the alimony? This is a pre-statute case.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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  • 2.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 02:27 PM

    Either this was a very badly drafted agreement or it is so old before the law was so sophisticated.  nevertheless, if there are terms as to the termination of alimony, it would most likely be interpreted as "permanent" alimony under the prior law.  Depending on the facts and the parties, a good attorney can make an argument that since there is no terminating events specified in the Agreement which would take it out of the purview of the new statute, that the new statute applies (and choose your poison as to a termination event under the new statute depending on the facts).

     

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  • 3.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 03:09 PM

    Alice:

     

    By operation of law as it existed when this agreement was signed, the alimony would have terminated on remarriage so there is an implied terminating event.

     

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  • 4.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 03:10 PM

    ok

     

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  • 5.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 03:30 PM

    It HAS TO terminate on death of payor to be tax affected. I don't have a minute right now to provide the case name but, without that provision, it cannot be tax effected as alimony. I recall the huge stink that ran through the family bar when that case was decided... unless I am forgetting where I left my shoes and glasses, which is entirely possible.

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  • 6.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 04:21 PM

    Curt, it is in the IRC itself, but you can have non-deductible alimony. So the issue is based on the language Lisa gave us, what is it?

     

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  • 7.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 04:42 PM
    I agree with the other responses that if it's silent as to duration, it'd be assumed to be permanent. However, you'd have to look at the facts - if it was, for instance, a short term marriage, you could probably get a hearing as to what the intent of the parties is and whether it's fundamentally fair.

    Also, as Hanan said, it had better say somewhere that it terminates on death or remarriage, or there's a potential IRS landmine in it.



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  • 8.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 02:27 PM
    Lisa:

    If there is no termination date, then it is of unlimited duration. 

    What does the lawyer who negotiated the settlement say?

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  • 9.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 02:58 PM
    Thanks Robert!

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  • 10.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 02:29 PM

    Because "Limited Duration," "Rehabilitative" and "Reimbursement" all restrict permanent alimony (which, before reform was the default) non-qualified/non-quantified "alimony" will probably deemed to be permanent.  

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  • 11.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 02:58 PM
    Thank you, Lisa!

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  • 12.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 02:44 PM

    Does it at least say alimony  ends upon payor's death?  Without that, it ain't even alimony.

    Sounds like terrible drafting.

    With no stated end date, one could infer an intent to continue through payor's retirement at normal age (pre-amendments, see Silvan vs. Sylvan, App Div 1993):

    "We are satisfied that in certain circumstances, good faith retirement at age sixty-five may constitute changed circumstances for purposes of modification of alimony and that a hearing should be held to determine whether a reduction in alimony is called for."

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  • 13.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 02:55 PM
    Thanks Hanan!   

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  • 14.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 03:00 PM

    If unstated, permanent, particularly if the Judge would have had to deem it permanent if tried, as opposed to anything less than that per Heinl. Coincidentally, I just blogged this case this morning: Sylvan v. Sylvan, 267 NJ Super 578 (App. Div. 1993). If it doesn't terminate on payer's death, IRS won't treat it as taxable/deductable alimony. Sounds like the drafter has a future selling/installing aluminum siding.

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  • 15.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 03:23 PM
    I think that to qualify as alimony, the payment needs to have a termination date. 

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  • 16.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 04:06 PM

    IRS issues aside, Lepis says, whether it is in a settlement or judicial decree, it's modifiable upon a showing of changed circumstances unless of course the agreement contains anti –lepis language.

     

     

     

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  • 17.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 04:53 PM

    IRC does NOT require termination of alimony for remarriage as a qualifying condition.  Alimony can still be deductible by payor and taxable to payee for alimony payments post remarriage. Rare, but it happens.

    But death of payor MUST be stated as a triggering event to stop alimony, or it ain't alimony.

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  • 18.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 06:22 PM

    Hanan:

     

    I may not always be right but I am never wrong.

     

    "Like other spousal agreements, those covering alimony may be modified in light of changed circumstances. "The equitable authority of a court to modify support obligations in response to changed circumstances, regardless of their source, cannot be restricted." Lepis, supra, 83 N.J. at 149, 416 A.2d 45. Permanent alimony terminates automatically on remarriage. N.J.S.A. 2A:34-25. In enacting that basis or condition for discontinuing alimony, the Legislature articulated a public policy that the legal obligation of the supporting spouse is superseded and ends on the remarriage of the dependent spouse. In effect, the new marriage bond itself creates a change of circumstances that the Legislature deemed sufficiently fundamental and important to require the automatic termination of alimony. The legal obligation of post-divorce alimony is derived from the antecedent marriage; a new marriage supplants that obligation. Gayet v. Gayet, 92 N.J. 149, 151, 456 A.2d 102 (1983). Hence, remarriage justifies the termination of alimony without regard to the economic circumstances of the dependent spouse who has remarried." Konzelman v. Konzelman, 158 N.J. 185, 729 A. 2d 7 (N.J., 1999).

     

    I nominate myself for the Romanowski award of the day. J

     

     

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  • 19.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 06:37 PM

    Hanan is correct.  Consider reimbursement and rehabilitative alimony which the statute expressly states do not terminate on remarriage.

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  • 20.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 06:43 PM

    Brian:

     

    We were not discussing that. We were discussing permanent alimony under Lisa's scenario, or at least I thought we were.

     

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  • 21.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 08:04 PM
    And Brian has to show me up, too... Also forgot that reimbursement alimony also doesn't terminate on remarriage. And the issue is a red herring anyway since it's not an IRS requirement that it terminate on remarriage.



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  • 22.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 07:42 PM

    You are waaaaaaaaay too funny, and I am honored by your comment (or should I be lol). May the force be with you.

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  • 23.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 07:45 PM

    Hanan...

    You're inviting me to polish (or Polish, as the case may be, either way) my own award, but the comment was Bob's and I concur with you. lol Are we ALL drinking?

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  • 24.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 07:50 PM

    Yeah I know. I've corrected my corrections. Signing off now.

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  • 25.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 07:51 PM

    And here, I always thought Death of a Salesman terminates the award as the IRC prerequisite. Love and Kisses, Willie Loman.

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  • 26.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-26-2016 10:49 AM

    Isn't that what I said at 4:06pm EST?

     

     

     

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  • 27.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 06:37 PM

    I agree with that, Your Honor. 100% correct.

     

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  • 28.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 08:03 PM
    Duh - of course, Hanan. Rehab alimony, which doesn't terminate on remarriage (assuming new statute is like the old on this). Didn't think of that.


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  • 29.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 06:09 PM

    My bad.  Amy Wechsler kindly pointed out to me that I said 'death of PAYOR' as an automatic IRC trigger for alimony termination, whereas I should have said 'death of PAYEE'.

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    IRC does NOT require termination of alimony for remarriage as a qualifying condition.  Alimony can still be deductible by payor and taxable to payee for alimony payments post remarriage. Rare, but it happens.

    But death of payor MUST be stated as a triggering event to stop alimony, or it ain't alimony.

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  • 30.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 06:30 PM

    Curt,

    I may be wrong, but I am often right.

    The issue is not one of state law.  State law can trigger alimony termination any way it wants to.  But to be federally tax deductible by payor and taxable to payee, the only trigger required in the written agreement or Court Order is – alimony is terminable upon death of the payor. 

    Look it up, after you polish your award.

    Hanan

     


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    Hanan:

     

    I may not always be right but I am never wrong.

     

    "Like other spousal agreements, those covering alimony may be modified in light of changed circumstances. "The equitable authority of a court to modify support obligations in response to changed circumstances, regardless of their source, cannot be restricted." Lepis, supra, 83 N.J. at 149, 416 A.2d 45. Permanent alimony terminates automatically on remarriage. N.J.S.A. 2A:34-25. In enacting that basis or condition for discontinuing alimony, the Legislature articulated a public policy that the legal obligation of the supporting spouse is superseded and ends on the remarriage of the dependent spouse. In effect, the new marriage bond itself creates a change of circumstances that the Legislature deemed sufficiently fundamental and important to require the automatic termination of alimony. The legal obligation of post-divorce alimony is derived from the antecedent marriage; a new marriage supplants that obligation. Gayet v. Gayet, 92 N.J. 149, 151, 456 A.2d 102 (1983). Hence, remarriage justifies the termination of alimony without regard to the economic circumstances of the dependent spouse who has remarried." Konzelman v. Konzelman, 158 N.J. 185, 729 A. 2d 7 (N.J., 1999).

     

    I nominate myself for the Romanowski award of the day. J

     

     

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    IRC does NOT require termination of alimony for remarriage as a qualifying condition.  Alimony can still be deductible by payor and taxable to payee for alimony payments post remarriage. Rare, but it happens.

    But death of payor MUST be stated as a triggering event to stop alimony, or it ain't alimony.

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  • 31.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 06:37 PM

    Sorry.  Bob . . .

     


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    Curt,

    I may be wrong, but I am often right.

    The issue is not one of state law.  State law can trigger alimony termination any way it wants to.  But to be federally tax deductible by payor and taxable to payee, the only trigger required in the written agreement or Court Order is – alimony is terminable upon death of the payor. 

    Look it up, after you polish your award.

    Hanan

     







  • 32.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 06:46 PM

    Dangit.  Death of the PAYEE makes it deductible/taxable. 

     


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    Sorry.  Bob . . .

     







  • 33.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-25-2016 07:05 PM

    Yes.  The alimony rule only came up bc Dave Davis said "it had better say somewhere that it terminates on death or remarriage, or there's a potential IRS landmine in it."

    And I wrote, 3 times, wrongly, that only the death of the payor matters for IRC treatment as alimony, except I should have said "death of payee".

    Hanan

     


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    Brian: We were not discussing that. We were discussing permanent alimony under Lisa's scenario, or at least I thought we were. Robert E.... -posted to the "Family Law Section" community

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    Brian:

     

    We were not discussing that. We were discussing permanent alimony under Lisa's scenario, or at least I thought we were.

     

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  • 34.  RE: Alimony without a termination date

    Posted 02-26-2016 10:32 AM
    All:  thoroughly educational and thoroughly enjoyable.  Thanx ( and the misspelling is intentional :).
     
     
     
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    On 02/25/16, David Perry Davis via New Jersey State Bar Association<>org> wrote:
     
    And Brian has to show me up, too... Also forgot that reimbursement alimony also doesn't terminate on remarriage. And the issue is a red herring...

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    And Brian has to show me up, too... Also forgot that reimbursement alimony also doesn't terminate on remarriage. And the issue is a red herring anyway since it's not an IRS requirement that it terminate on remarriage.



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