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Emancipation language for MSAs

  • 1.  Emancipation language for MSAs

    Posted 09-21-2016 07:11 AM

    Good morning. What language have you been including in your MSAs regarding emancipation now that we are around the corner from the new statute taking effect in Feb. 2017?

    Feel free to email me your clauses at [email protected].

    Thanks.

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  • 2.  RE: Emancipation language for MSAs

    Posted 09-21-2016 08:50 AM

    Bob

    Since parties by contract can vary from statutory language, why would the advent of a new emancipation statute change the language lawyers customarily use in parties' Agreements?

    I have developed emancipation language over many years that I fully understand and with which I am comfortable. I am confident that other lawyers feel the same about theirs.

    The main purpose of the new statute was to presume emancipation in cases where child support had kept going when it should have stopped, making it appear that State support collections were far worse than reality.   I supported the changes. 

    What language in particular should we be looking to change in our private child support agreements that we are not already covering or are covering badly?

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  • 3.  RE: Emancipation language for MSAs

    Posted 09-21-2016 11:41 AM

    I think the final cutoff date of age 23 is something that we have to think about.

     

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  • 4.  RE: Emancipation language for MSAs

    Posted 09-21-2016 11:50 AM

    the new statute does not change the law on emancipation.  (we had a full seminar on this at NJAJ Boardwalk 2016).  the statute governs child support collected by and enforcement by Probation.  Unless Probation has another order, they will cease collecting child support at age 19 and if they have another order, the outside age of collection and enforcement is age 23.

     

    If a child is in college and is not emancipated, either the child support is direct pay or get another order for probation to continue to collect.

     

     

     

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  • 5.  RE: Emancipation language for MSAs

    Posted 09-21-2016 02:00 PM
    Alice:

    So what clause are you putting in your MSAs now?

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  • 6.  RE: Emancipation language for MSAs

    Posted 09-23-2016 06:24 PM
    As another answer indicates -- the new law is already causing some confusion / being incorrectly interpreted. Unless the presentation of the information at the seminar changed minds, at least two judges have expressed a belief that the law extends the period during which a child is entitled to support to age 19 (/ changes the age of emancipation to 19) rather than (as intended and supported by many) changing the date on which probation will (in the absence of an order to the contrary) stop collecting support. Again, maybe there's been more education as the effective date grows nearer, but, if not, someone's going to have to take it up and get published case law clarifying the law's intent when a judge continues an obligation to age 19 when someone seeks emancipation of a non-student / non-disabled 18 year old.

    It would help if the CS website / NJChildSupport.org made this clear -- maybe something like "The new statute does not change the law on when a child is emancipated and the duty to provide child support ends (generally, when a non-disabled child is over 18 and no longer a full time student), it only changes the date at which probation will stop collecting support and close the account if no arrears exist." I'll send this over to the AOC / DFD as a suggestion.

    As Hanan pointed out, the primary motivation is to get New Jersey's collection rate up. We're 18th in the country (down from 16th last year) in spite of being the 2nd or 3rd wealthiest state. Part of the problem is that there was a significant amount being charged to accounts where the child was actually emancipated and neither parent pursued getting an order to that effect. Until a tax refund was seized (etc), no one complained or made the effort to close a lot of these old cases out. New Jersey was the only state in the country that didn't close out collections at a certain age (subject, of course, to an order that it continue). I forget the exact numbers, but there was a ridiculous amount (in the aggregate) being charged to cases where the "child" at issue was over age 30.


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  • 7.  RE: Emancipation language for MSAs

    Posted 09-21-2016 08:55 AM

    Just a quick reminder that the law is not an emancipation law.  It is a termination of child support law.  A child may not be emancipated (college, etc.) even though child support terminates.  Here is a link to the NJ Child Support website with a Q & A regarding the new law:  http://www.njchildsupport.org/Services-Programs/Custodial-Parents/Termination/Emancipation.aspx

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  • 8.  RE: Emancipation language for MSAs

    Posted 09-21-2016 09:18 AM

    I would define what emancipation means in addition to when it occurs for the reasons outline below:

     

    But first, I must agree with Robert to be careful that we do not confuse the new law as being an emancipation law - The acceptance of the new law as an "emancipation law" sees to be pervasive even though it is wrong.  It is referenced as such in treatises incorrectly also.  The law refers only to child support paid to a payee parent.

     

    As to why we have to now should define what emancipation means - - It has always been my understanding that once emancipated, the paying spouse no longer has any further obligation to pay child support, education costs, etc.  The new law only deals with child support paid (usually) to the payee parent.

     

    The case of Biser v. Levine (February 8, 2016, App Div.) has caused me to now include clear language that expressly states that upon emancipation all financial obligations of the paying parent end to support the then adult child, including, but not limited to, child support paid to the payee parent, education costs, etc. - The Appellate Division in Biser v. Levine ordered the payor to continue to support an emancipated daughter in paying the adult child's medical school costs despite her being 27 years old, emancipated since she was 23 years old, and having one graduate degree.

     

    All the best,

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    Just a quick reminder that the law is not an emancipation law.  It is a termination of child support law.  A child may not be emancipated (college, etc.) even though child support terminates.  Here is a link to the NJ Child Support website with a Q & A regarding the new law:  www.njchildsupport.org/Services-Programs/...

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    Just a quick reminder that the law is not an emancipation law.  It is a termination of child support law.  A child may not be emancipated (college, etc.) even though child support terminates.  Here is a link to the NJ Child Support website with a Q & A regarding the new law:  http://www.njchildsupport.org/Services-Programs/Custodial-Parents/Termination/Emancipation.aspx

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    Mitch Steinhart, Esq.
    Bergen County Board of Social Services
    Rochelle Park, NJ
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  • 9.  RE: Emancipation language for MSAs

    Posted 09-21-2016 09:55 AM

    Given that parents may only set a definition for emancipation that expands rather than restricts the obligation to provide child support, it seems best to leave the issue alone. See, e.g., Patetta v. Patetta, 358 N.J. Super. 90, 94 (App. Div. 2003) ("[W]e hold the parental duty to support a child may not be waived or terminated by a property settlement agreement."); Dolce v. Dolce, 383 N.J. Super. 11, 18 (App. Div. 2006) ("Of course, a parent cannot bargain away a child's right to support because the right to support belongs to the child, not the parent, and no agreement between the parents can deprive a court of its authority to require that adequate provision be made for dependent children. On the other hand, however, nothing in the law, and no principle of public policy prevents a parent from freely undertaking to support a child beyond the presumptive legal limits of parental responsibility.").

     

    As a result, I prefer to include something like, "The child's emancipation shall be determined in accordance with New Jersey law as it exists when the application to emancipate is made."

     

    For what it's worth, the Appellate Division in Biser v. Levine was dealing with the an arbitration award. In that case, the parties had vested the arbitrator with authority to decide the allocation of graduate school expenses. The order was subsequently vacated by the Superior Court, and the Appellate Division reinstated, finding insufficient grounds to set aside the result of the arbitration. Indeed, the Court held that a mistake of law was normally insufficient to set aside an arbitration award: "Absent an agreement by the parties to an expanded standard of judicial review, courts must apply the standard of judicial review normally applicable to private arbitration, under which a court may 'not vacate an award even though it might be based on a mistake of law.'" I believe the Court would have arrived at a very different result if the matter had been originally decided in the Superior Court. Still, probably a good practice

     

    That being said, the new child support law does not deal solely with presumptions. It also clearly states that "the obligation to pay child support … shall not extend beyond the date the child reaches 23 years of age." A more interesting question is probably this: Does child support include college costs? The Appellate Division has contradicted itself on that point over time.

     

    "Child support and contribution to college expenses are two discrete yet related obligations imposed on parents." Hudson v. Hudson, 315 N.J. Super. 577 (App. Div. 1998).

    "We view an imposed college contribution as simply another form of child support." Raynor v. Raynor, 319 N.J. Super. 591 (App. Div. 1999).

    "The payment of college costs differs from the payment of child support for a college student." Jacoby v. Jacoby, 427 N.J. Super. 109 (App. Div. 2012).

     

    It will be fun to see the question resolved. My inclination is to believe the Jacoby rationale will prevail, although I personally prefer the outcome in Raynor.

     

    Very truly yours,

    Andrew

     

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  • 10.  RE: Emancipation language for MSAs

    Posted 09-21-2016 11:46 AM

    Andrew:

     

    My concern is that clients want some degree of guidance. To say it will be in accordance with the law of NJ at the time the application for emancipation is made tells them two things, in my opinion:

     

    1.   They can't presume any particular event will constitute emancipation or terminate a child support obligation, and

    2.   They are likely going to have to pay a lawyer to go back to court.

     

    I am sure this will all play out fairly soon, but I am now uncomfortable with the provisions we routinely used in our PSAs/MSAs before this statute was enacted.

     

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  • 11.  RE: Emancipation language for MSAs

    Posted 09-21-2016 12:03 PM

    Hi Alice

    Your comments are most helpful.

    You and others correctly state the new statute does not directly address emancipation of a child.  However, the fact that children are "timed out" at age 19, or age 23 if they attend post secondary schooling, makes those children no longer financially dependent on their parents.  In other words, they are emancipated. 

    Again, I see no reason to change emancipation language in Agreements, based solely on the advent of a modified child support collection statute.

    Hanan


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  • 12.  RE: Emancipation language for MSAs

    Posted 09-21-2016 12:09 PM

    Bob

    What if parties agree to continue c.s. to a maximum of a non-disabled and dependent child's age 28?  It's still enforceable. 

    Hanan


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