Easy Soft is increasing my fees with them by 300%.  They are trying to justify it by bundling their programs into a package that includes things I do not remotely need. 

Does anyone else use an alternative CIS/Child Support Calculation program or are they the only game in town?

Laura Ruvolo Lipp, Esq.

Certified by the New Jersey Supreme Court as a Matrimonial Law Attorney

Ruvolo Law Group, LLC

55 Madison Avenue

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Morristown, NJ 07960

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Easy Soft is increasing my fees with them by 300%.  They are trying to justify it by bundling their programs into a package that includes things I do not remotely need. 

Does anyone else use an alternative CIS/Child Support Calculation program or are they the only game in town?

Laura Ruvolo Lipp, Esq.

Certified by the New Jersey Supreme Court as a Matrimonial Law Attorney

Ruvolo Law Group, LLC

55 Madison Avenue

Suite  360

Morristown, NJ 07960

Phone:  973-993-9960

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[email protected]

www.ruvololaw.com

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Easy Soft is increasing my fees with them by 300%.  They are trying to justify it by bundling their programs into a package that includes things I do not remotely need. 

Does anyone else use an alternative CIS/Child Support Calculation program or are they the only game in town?

Laura Ruvolo Lipp, Esq.

Certified by the New Jersey Supreme Court as a Matrimonial Law Attorney

Ruvolo Law Group, LLC

55 Madison Avenue

Suite  360

Morristown, NJ 07960

Phone:  973-993-9960

Fax:  973-993-9961

[email protected]

www.ruvololaw.com

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Easy Soft is increasing my fees with them by 300%.  They are trying to justify it by bundling their programs into a package that includes things I do not remotely need. 

Does anyone else use an alternative CIS/Child Support Calculation program or are they the only game in town?

Laura Ruvolo Lipp, Esq.

Certified by the New Jersey Supreme Court as a Matrimonial Law Attorney

Ruvolo Law Group, LLC

55 Madison Avenue

Suite  360

Morristown, NJ 07960

Phone:  973-993-9960

Fax:  973-993-9961

[email protected]

www.ruvololaw.com

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Easy Soft is increasing my fees with them by 300%.  They are trying to justify it by bundling their programs into a package that includes things I do not remotely need. 

Does anyone else use an alternative CIS/Child Support Calculation program or are they the only game in town?

Laura Ruvolo Lipp, Esq.

Certified by the New Jersey Supreme Court as a Matrimonial Law Attorney

Ruvolo Law Group, LLC

55 Madison Avenue

Suite  360

Morristown, NJ 07960

Phone:  973-993-9960

Fax:  973-993-9961

[email protected]

www.ruvololaw.com

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Laura:

What is Easy Soft trying to bundle other than the CIS program? I know it has a program called Divorce financials that has been out for quite some time, but they have never made it mandatory to purchase that to have their CIS program, to my knowledge.

I have used Easy Soft per year and we only pay the annual license fees for the actual easy Soft programs that our firm uses.

Robert E. Goldstein, Esq.
Drescher & Cheslow, P.A.

610 Bridge Plaza Drive

Manalapan, NJ 07726

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Laura:

What is Easy Soft trying to bundle other than the CIS program? I know it has a program called Divorce financials that has been out for quite some time, but they have never made it mandatory to purchase that to have their CIS program, to my knowledge.

I have used Easy Soft per year and we only pay the annual license fees for the actual easy Soft programs that our firm uses.

Robert E. Goldstein, Esq.
Drescher & Cheslow, P.A.

610 Bridge Plaza Drive

Manalapan, NJ 07726

(732) 972-1600
Fax (732) 972-0038
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I had a similar experience with Intuit payroll.  I got a notice that the renewal bill would be $588 or so but when all was said and done I paid less than $400.  Maybe they use the same billing company as Easy Soft.

Laura:

What is Easy Soft trying to bundle other than the CIS program? I know it has a program called Divorce financials that has been out for quite some time, but they have never made it mandatory to purchase that to have their CIS program, to my knowledge.

I have used Easy Soft per year and we only pay the annual license fees for the actual easy Soft programs that our firm uses.

Robert E. Goldstein, Esq.
Drescher & Cheslow, P.A.

610 Bridge Plaza Drive

Manalapan, NJ 07726

(732) 972-1600
Fax (732) 972-0038
E-mail: [email protected]
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The "bundle" that Easy Soft now wants to make me pay for is not just the CIS software and Divorce Financials (both of which I have now), but also Pennsylvania forms (I don't practice there), NY forms (I don't practice there either) and real estate documents (oh hell no).

So rather than letting us just keep paying for the CIS program and Divorce Financials, they are tripling our fees and trying to justify it by pointing out all of these other things I will now have that I didn't previously have.  Things I will never want.  And we have 5 attorneys in our firm, so the dramatic increase in cost for each license totaled to well over $3K per year.  (I left my notes with the exact figure at the office . . .  Or maybe I burned them.)

Laura Ruvolo Lipp, Esq.

Certified by the New Jersey Supreme Court as a Matrimonial Law Attorney

Ruvolo Law Group, LLC

55 Madison Avenue

Suite  360

Morristown, NJ 07960

Phone:  973-993-9960

Fax:  973-993-9961

[email protected]

www.ruvololaw.com

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What is the alternative to Easy Soft?     Are you going to pay Easy Soft the triple fees or are you going to sign up with Family Law Software CIS?    For those of you using different software, please share your experiences. 

Bruce Evan Chase, Esq.

Certified by the Supreme Court of New Jersey as a Matrimonial Law Attorney

Fellow of the American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers

Chase & Chase, Esqs.

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Hackensack, NJ 07601

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I switched to familylaw software. $24.95 per month for the basic program (which is enough if you do not need the tax analysis and property division analysis) and they have a basic app for free, but it is worthless without the health insurance and union  dues, etc. inputs (like Easy Soft's).

What is the alternative to Easy Soft?     Are you going to pay Easy Soft the triple fees or are you going to sign up with Family Law Software CIS?    For those of you using different software, please share your experiences. 

Bruce Evan Chase, Esq.

Certified by the Supreme Court of New Jersey as a Matrimonial Law Attorney

Fellow of the American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers

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Hackensack, NJ 07601

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Bruce Evan Chase, Esq.

Certified by the Supreme Court of New Jersey as a Matrimonial Law Attorney

Fellow of the American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers

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Hackensack, NJ 07601

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What is the alternative to Easy Soft?     Are you going to pay Easy Soft the triple fees or are you going to sign up with Family Law Software CIS?    For those of you using different software, please share your experiences. 

Bruce Evan Chase, Esq.

Certified by the Supreme Court of New Jersey as a Matrimonial Law Attorney

Fellow of the American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers

Chase & Chase, Esqs.

1 Atlantic Street

Hackensack, NJ 07601

201-343-6555

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Bruce:

I know nothing about the costs, really.  But I do know that supposedly NJSBA members get a 20% discount from ES.

Easy Soft is increasing my fees with them by 300%.  They are trying to justify it by bundling their programs into a package that includes things I do not remotely need. 

Does anyone else use an alternative CIS/Child Support Calculation program or are they the only game in town?

Laura Ruvolo Lipp, Esq.

Certified by the New Jersey Supreme Court as a Matrimonial Law Attorney

Ruvolo Law Group, LLC

55 Madison Avenue

Suite  360

Morristown, NJ 07960

Phone:  973-993-9960

Fax:  973-993-9961

[email protected]

www.ruvololaw.com

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Good morning All,

My renewal is not due until September so I have not seen the increase notice. However, based on the info from the group that the increase is apparently due to non-sensical bundling, I contacted EasySoft (which I am pretty sure merged with FamilySoft years ago).

I spoke to billing who passed me along to someone in the executive office. I hinted at the far reach of our massive e-community (we have by far the largest and most active e-community in the NJSBA) and the probable mass exodus about to occur in the near future if the bundling continued.

The gentleman there was very interested in what the average family law practitioner needs "bundled". Since that call an hour ago I have received three calls from various other EasySoft peeps.

To be continued…

I had a lovely conversation with the guy who built the program sold through NJICLE.

Art Lieberman created his program, Divorceware NJ, in response to the kind of nonsense that we now face.

his website: http://www.divorcewarenj.com/

Does anyone have experience with his product?

Bob Davies

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Easy Soft is increasing my fees with them by 300%.  They are trying to justify it by bundling their programs into a package that includes things I do not remotely need. 

Does anyone else use an alternative CIS/Child Support Calculation program or are they the only game in town?

Laura Ruvolo Lipp, Esq.

Certified by the New Jersey Supreme Court as a Matrimonial Law Attorney

Ruvolo Law Group, LLC

55 Madison Avenue

Suite  360

Morristown, NJ 07960

Phone:  973-993-9960

Fax:  973-993-9961

[email protected]

www.ruvololaw.com

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